March 2002 Near Normal News


 

 


TWILIGHT ZONE

by Troy J. Simpson

Let me re-introduce myself. I am Troy J. Simpson and I am the current President of the Near Normal Grotto. I figure I might have to do that, considering I've missed the last two meetings because of coaching obligations. I seriously want to thank the Executive Board and members of the Grotto for being so patient with me these past two months. When track season hits, pretty much everything else takes a backburner. (Ugh!)

First a couple news of notes. John Schirle is preparing the ISS report from the Near Normal Grotto and if you have done anything during the last 12 months regarding cave conservation, education, survey, etc… in Illinois, it is important that we share that with the ISS. Also along the lines of conservation, we have the opportunity to assist in the continual clean-up of Equality Cave here in Illinois and the never ending task of cleaning of Buckner's Cave in Indiana. It would great to work one of these in sometime this summer. I have been in contact with the Illinois DNR and they are looking into the volunteering possibilities at Illinois Caverns. As many of you know, Gov. Ryan is planning some serious cuts with State Park and lands and this would have drastic effects for us.

Some other news of note… The National NSS Convention is in Camden, Maine, June 24-28. Before that is MVOR on May 17-19 in Camden County, MO. Also the 31st Speleofest in Kentucky is May 24-27. Contact info is in the NSS NEWS. Check out the NSS site if you get a free moment. The discussion board has been pretty lively lately with great discussion of topics of interest. Locally, Marc Tiritilli has secured the ISU Rappelling Tower for Vertical Practice on June 15. We'll try to coordinate the June Program with that. I look forward to seeing firsthand the progress with the T-shirt committee. The designs posted on the website were outstanding!! Len has done a great job with updating the trip announcements on the website also. I would encourage you to check it out. I also want to continue to encourage you to make submissions to the Near Normal News. This is a great way to share experiences and is also a great help for our fearless editors!! o[;)>

With summer quickly approaching, I'm looking forward to getting underground a bit more often. I will be starting things off to a good start by heading to Maquoketa with a bunch of junior higher's by the time you read this. I look forward to seeing you all at the May Meeting, its been a long time (at least for me!).

Your Prodigal President
Troy

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FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND 

by Jim Jacobs

Writing that sentence is as close as I've gotten to a hole in the ground in quite some time. I will cure that problem this summer, for sure!
As many of you know, NNG member Larry Bird has a new and interesting job at Starved Rock State Park. He drives a tour bus, (The Big Green Trolley) and conducts historical tours of the area. There are usually three tours a day, and they leave and return to the main Lodge. Larry has been involved in the local historical society for a long time, and gives a fascinating tour. Since we spent so much time in that area during the BlackBall Mine project, Marty and I became quite interested in the area history. From the French exploration, to the Indian wars that led to the naming of the rock, to the development of the I & M Canal, there is a lot to know, and Larry paints some very interesting pictures as you pass the various points of interest. There might just be a surprise or two! If you want to spend a fine afternoon, go to the Starved Rock Lodge and sign up for a trip on the Trolley. It takes a little more than an hour, and you'll really enjoy yourselves. A word of warning! This tour just started last fall. As word spreads and the popularity of the tour increases, it may fill up in advance. It might be a good idea to give Larry a call in advance to see how things are running. He might just save you a seat! (See! Being an NNG'r has some perks!)

This is going to be a rather short issue. Thanks to President Troy Simpson for saving the day with two articles, and to Earl Neller and Marc Tiritilli for providing a thought-provoking question and answer. Perhaps we can have some more of these in the future.

ANNOUNCEMENTS:

MARC TIRITILLI - I have secured two dates for the rappelling tower this year--Sat. June 15, and Sat. Aug 24. Please mark your calendars? I will pull together more information and send out a general e-mail in the near future. Please let me know if there are any questions or conflicts.

NORM ROGERS - Make plans now to attend the May 4-5 weekend camp. All the details can be found at www.restorationcamp.org Click on "Upcoming Events & Participation". Make sure to read the new FAQ. Just send me an E-mail with your intent to attend, and show up for a great time. Also, it's not too late to register for the summer camp in August. Even if you can't spend the entire week, a few days are fine. Remember, extra cave trips are planned for participants. Summer camp is where the fun is! In case you didn't know, a crew from the Today Show filmed the last week-end camp. The program hasn't been put together yet, but I have been assured that we will know when it is to be aired. I'll send a message out to everyone as soon as I get a time and date. See you in the cave - Norm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Restoration_Camp

JOHN SCHIRLE - The Near Normal Grotto is part of the Illinois Speleological Survey (http://www.museum.state.il.us/iss/), and several of our members participate in various capacities. As a part of the ISS, we need to submit a brief report of any activities that the grotto or its individual members have participated in during the past year which relate to the purposes of the ISS. The purpose of the ISS is:

"The Illinois Speleological Survey is dedicated to protecting,
conserving, locating, recording, exploring and studying caves and karst
in Illinois."

So for anything that you have done during the past 12 months related to cave education (classroom presentations, trips led, training received, etc.); cave conservation (clean-ups participated in, gating projects,fund-raising projects for cave conservation, etc.); cave exploration and study (helping with research projects, mapping, etc.), please email a brief description to me, and I'll see that the report is compiled and submitted. This would cover the calendar year from April 1, 2001 to March 31, 2002.

Les Vaughn of the Little Egypt Grotto sent me the info below about an Equality Cave clean-up they do each spring. Also, their grotto was interested in a joint camping/caving trip some weekend with us last fall, but we couldn't coordinate dates then. Anyone interested for spring? I'm happy to help coordinate, but not sure when I'll be back to caving speed (though I'm healing up, and should be out of the cast in a couple weeks or so, I hope)

SCOTT CUNDIFF (Speleofest Chairman 2002)- I wanted to let everyone know that the Louisville Grotto's Speleofest 2002 Website is up and running. A Pre-Registration form is included on the webpage that can be printed, filled out and mailed to me (with check made out to "The Louisville Grotto" included). We have added many new components to Speleofest this year and I hope to hear from you all very soon. Pre-Registration ends May 11th. Go to:
http://www.caves.org/grotto/louisvillegrotto/speleofest/index.htm

CHRISTOPHER A GILBERT cagilber@INDIANA.EDU - Buckners Cave Cleanup. Monroe County, Indiana. March 30, 2002. About sixteen people were on hand to help out with trash removal from the entrance room, crawlway, and signature room of Buckners Cave on Saturday, March 30th. The group of IUPUI medical students and local cavers worked for six hours removing ten to twelve large bags of trash and about two and a half gallons of old batteries. The trash, ranging from bubble gum to beer cans and everything in between, was removed from high traffic areas as well as many cracks, corners, and crevices normally over looked by other cleaning crews. After the workday many crew members expressed that they were happy that they could help out with the project and were eager to return again in the near future. If you are interested in becoming involved with cleanups and workdays at the Buckners cave property please contact Eric (subrat87@juno.com) or myself (cagilber@indiana.edu) for more information.
Chris Gilbert
Indiana University Spelunking Club
Bloomington Indiana <jds217@juno.com>

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING
March 8, 2002

Called to order at 7:35 by Secretary Jim Jacobs. Present: Brett Bennett, Marc Tiritilli, Jeff Gosnell, Brian Braye, Bill Morrow.

REPORTS:
SECRETARY: The minutes of the February meeting were read and approved.
TREASURER: Treasurer Dave Carson was at Mammoth Cave. Report deferred until next meeting.

OLD BUSINESS:
The grotto shirts with the classic design are in. Brian will send new designs for webmaster Len Storm to post for all to see. We will vote later. Send comments to Brian.
We noted that meeting attendance was very low since many members were participating in the Mammoth Cave project this weekend.
The Indiana DNR is undergoing budget cuts. Exactly how this will effect caving in the state is unknown at this time.
NEW BUSINESS:
Marc T. heard a dog lost in the sewer system. He reported it, but no one returned his call. Fate of the dog is unknown.
Brett mentioned that he and another person were doing the cooking this year at the August Mammoth Cave week-long field camp. They saved the day last year and staved off a mutiny by taking over the duties after two days.
Brett is selling his vertical gear. Contact him for details.
TRIP REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Jeff G. and Ralph Sawyer did Wye Cave and Dance Hall Cave in Mequoketa Park.
Marc is taking a youth group to Illinois Caverns, and is attending a rescue school in Eastern Kentucky in April. He also reports that John Schirle is now in a walking cast.
Bill M. is going to try to do a trip to Shawnee this summer.
The next meeting is April 12.
Dates for the Mammoth Cave Restoration Camp are March 9-10, May 4-5, August 4-10, November 2-3.
ISS meeting April 13 at the Illinois State Museum in Springfield.
Patches are still available for $3.00 ea. Cougar print is $5.00
Adjourned. Pizza at Tobins.

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING
April 12, 2002

Called to order at 7:25 by Treasurer Dave Carson. Present: Don Coons, Angela Carson, Jim Jacobs, Julie Angel, Matt Angel, Ralph Sawyer, Kevin Rasmus, Bill Morrow, Brian Braye.

REPORTS:
SECRETARY: The minutes for the March meeting were read by Jim Jacobs. Approved.
TREASURER: The treasurer reports that we have $252.75, including due collected at today's meeting. Approved.

OLD BUSINESS:
T-shirts. The discussion continues. We have a couple of neat new designs. Go to the website to see them.
We voted to let Don Coons represent us at the ISS meeting tomorrow. There will be discussions of the state of the database since Rick Toomey left. There will also be discussions concerning the general mission of the ISS and the agenda of the meeting.
TRIP REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS:
The next meeting will be May 10.
Kentucky Speleofest, Memorial Day weekend. See,
-http://www.caves.org/grotto/louisvillegrotto/speleofest.index.htm
Dave C. and Julie A. did the Mammoth restoration camp. The Today Show filmed all day Saturday. No word yet as to when the program will air. Norm Rogers will send word. Norm and Chris Rogers and Larry Matiz also attended.
The Carson family went to Meramec Cavern in February.
Grotto President Troy Simpson's article "Top 10 Reasons to Hold the NSS Convention in Illinois" was reprinted in the NSS News. You read it HERE, first, folks.

Adjourned.

PROGRAM: Those who attended this meeting were lucky enough to see a world-class slide show on Lava Tube Caves of Hawaii presented by Don Coons. Thanks, Don!

 

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A JOURNEY INTO DORSEY'S CAVE
Troy J. Simpson

This caving trip was my birthday present to myself this past November. My little adventure in ridge-walking and hopefully finding the entrances to other caves in Cave River Valley. My little adventure began (as with nearly all of my caving trips!) at 3:00 am in the morning as I made some last minute additions to my car. Three and a half hours later, I met up with John Schirle, Jeffery Gosnell, and David Andrews at the Mitchell, IN McDonald's and soon we were off to Cave River Valley.
Once we arrived and geared up, we walked up a tributary stream valley towards Endless Cave, hoping that we might get a glimpse of other cave entrances. Our thinking was, maybe we'll get lucky and stumble upon an entrance to Lamplighter's, Dorsey's, or Frozen Waterfall. Considering I had no real clue where to look, this was the best plan we had going so far. After about an hour of scouring the various outcrops, we decided we wanted to go caving, so off to Endless Cave we set out. Here is where I leave the story to be told by the others of the group until we exit Endless.

We emerged from Endless Cave only be to be welcomed by a short rain shower. We had a brief lunch and then decided to make an attempt at finding the elusive cave entrances. We began our search by pairing up with two of us on one side of the Clifty Creek Valley and the other two on the opposite side. Ridge-walking at its best. Now to be honest I had some mixed feelings about this. Here I was searching for known cave entrances, but it was exciting because, they were still yet unknown to me. The next hour, the sound of excited shouts of "Hey, I think I found something!" followed by "No, it's nothing" resounded throughout the valley. Then came a discovery. I happened by a large cliff face outcrop of limestone. I investigated and found nothing of significance, but meandered my way along the ridge and found a small sink that was filled with water. I poked my head in and found a very tight, water-filled passage that appeared to have been dug open. I shouted back that I had found something and was going to investigate another lead between this hole and the cliff. This second lead is what I had been looking for. A small crawl-down entrance that lead to a stoop-walk, water-filled passage. I had found a significant cave. John, Jeffery, and David soon arrived and we decided to scout it out a bit. I took an educated guess that it was probably Dorsey's Cave and we should see where it went.

I scrambled down the entrance first and was immediately welcomed by cold, waist-high water. The passage wasn't much more than 4 feet high and appeared to wind around short bends. I turned back and informed the other guys that I wanted to check things out a bit further. The other three soon joined me, and we started to explore this intriguing "new" cave. It wound around and with each bend I stopped to see if anyone was still following. As soon as they caught up I told them I wanted to check out what was around the next bend. I wasn't really sure if the passage would continue to be water-filled, but I had hope that it would. After about 20 minutes, I came upon a dry section, which I would best describe as a point-bar of a stream. It was a muddy bank that curved around and then dived into yet another water-filled section. I decided it was best to wait here as I had gotten a bit ahead of the rest of the group. I knew the rest of the group was ready to go and even though I wanted to check out more, it was probably the best decision to head out. Just as I was about to head back, I checked out the stream beyond the mud bank. There in the water, were several blind crawdads! There they were, minding their own business, scouring the sediment for food. I called back to the others to come up here just to get a glimpse of the subterranean creatures. They hurried to my position and we were soon admiring the creatures crawling around the muddy bank. A salamander appeared and after several photos, we decided it was best to be on our way. On our way out, we moved a bit quicker than going in, as we became more aware of the fact that this cave as a tendency to flood. Especially considering we knew of rain in the forecast. Once out, we were glad that we found the cave and even though we didn't spend much time in Dorsey's, we felt it was worth the visit.

Later that afternoon, we went on to find and explore, Crystal Springs Cave, Green's Crawl, Frozen Waterfall, and Lamplighter's Cave, but that is another story. Once back to the cars, we checked out the maps of Cave River Valley and figured out where we had visited. Looking more closely at Dorsey's, we had only scratched the tip of the iceberg. I figured we only covered about 200 ft of a 2450 ft long, low ceiling passage. We had mixed feelings about reading names such as "The Easy Part," "The Terrible Part," The Bad Part," and the "The Boring Part," that lined the long passage. Hmm… Perhaps in the future, I'll find out exactly what those names really mean.

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ASK MR. WIZARD
by Marc Tiritilli

Mr, Wizard,
Yesterday I was at a science fair in La Verkin. One of the boys had three flashlights. Each flashlight had different types of "D" batteries in them. Two of the flashlights were out of light in about four hours. The third was still shining after 11 hours. It had some new variety of Duracell batteries in it. Could you ask the grotto members if there is anyone who could bring me up-to-date on this new kind of battery? Thanks.

Earl Neller
NNG

Earl,

As far as I know, there have been no major breakthroughs in the commercial battery business as of late. Usually, "New and Improved" means a slightly thinner skin or cap to allow a bit more energy producing material to fit into the package. While the premium brands may possess a slight edge in capacity, in practice this usually amounts to a few more minutes of light at best. My experience has been that all alkalines are pretty much the same except for price. I'm guessing that the Duracells went up against some non-alkaline competitors. For example, my AA headlamps burn for 2-1/2 hours on alkalines, but last only one hour on standard or even "Heavy-Duty" batteries. They simply do not have enough capacity to be useful.

Another possibility is that the Duracells were Lithium based. These batteries do have one-and-a-half to two times the power capacity of alkalines, but they usually cost four times as much. My headlamps usually go on 6-hour trips, so the extra money spent on lithiums still wouldn't eliminate the need for a costly extra set. As a side note, Energizer Titaniums have only a marginal increase in capacity over alkalines despite their higher price tag.

Still another possibility is that the flashlights had different bulbs in them. For a given voltage, bulbs can have many different current loads. As an example, I replace the bulbs that come with my 4-AA headlamps with ones that are rated at a slightly lower voltage and current. The result is a brighter light that burns about 25% longer. However, both bulbs are listed as 4-AA Kryptons. The tradeoff, of course, is shorter bulb life, but I have yet to have one burn out, even after dozens of trips.

To sum it all up, the El Dorado of batteries has not yet been found. The most practical solution is to find the best deal you can on alkalines of any brand. If you simply must have higher capacity, lithiums are the only ones which will provide a noticeable advantage. When in doubt, carbide! Hope this helps. See you underground.
--Marc


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